My my my, I see the radio arrogance is in full bloom again, quelle surprise. 

What difference does it matter than this Ziggy character isn't the worlds best broadcaster?  Since when does he need to be a broadcaster to understand what makes for good radio or have an opinion?.  If you went for dinner & complained about the food, should the chef come out and berate you because "you don't work as a chef, you have no idea what is good"?.  The very reason I so gleefully attacked and berated people for years WAS because of that arrogance.  It reeks of a holier than thou attitude, a superiority complex peppered with "rock snob".  "What would you know you, you dirty LISTENER". 

 

 


 

Couldn't agree more Mike. Ziggy is entirely entitled to his opinion, just like anyone here. But there's a nice way to say something and a deliberate troll attitude to the same approach, and he took the latter every single time - negative, bitter, personal and totally unneccessary, designed to provoke and not add to the discussion. He clearly got off on it to the point where he'd put up responses that were either off topic or just designed to hurt.

And he also posted the same insults over and over and over, going on and on about Ted Woloshyn for months at a time. OK! We got the message the first 26 times! And endlessly calling someone a 'gimp' is neither funny nor particularly productive. It only serves to insult not enlighten. And I'm sure most of us agree, that's classic troll behaviour and perhaps a sign of more serious mental problems.

And that's the issue. I disagree with Irvine but I'm not calling him names or denigrating whatever experience he might have. Ziggy might well have been better accepted without the non-stop negative nastiness. Instead, he's managed to chase away people I really respect and wanted to hear from. They're gone and the board is the worse for that loss.

And Mike is also right - he took delicious delight in ripping people who've actually worked in the industry as old fashioned, useless, out of touch, while touting his own tremendous background. But we now know that wasn't true and never happened. (And on that subject, if I need an operation, I'll take the surgeon who's done the procedure for years against the newbie fresh out of med school anytime.)

You can't walk the walk without the shoes. And on forums like these, at least, Ziggy appears to be totally unshod. Not to mention, unwanted.

Mike:  Who says he doesn't have "30 years in the business"?  He may well have worked in some capacity in radio for all you know.  If you want to counter that claim, then the professional method is to bring forth facts/evidence that prove it's a lie.  And he appears he hasn't shut up because he's continued saying what he says on SOWNY.   Now THAT is a troll and a good one.  A person that doesn't back down when exposed to his real identity.  Now the game is in your court.  You are the ones using the alias. 

@Aflem.  People called me names, etc, when I was SOWNY.  People called Bruce Marshall names when he was on SOWNY.  I can't recall anyone saying "he has the right to an opinion".  As for your claim you'll go to the seasoned surgeon over the "fresh out of med school" person.  Sure.  But in the end you KNOW how YOU feel about the operation you had.  How would you react if said physician told you to "shut the fuck up, I'm a surgeon, you have no right to tell me how you feel, I'll tell you how you feel". 

You see, what none of you seem to get about this is Ziggy is really just a "counter reaction" to SOWNY (as was I).  SOWNY, at it's best, is a circle jerk.  It's a group of old men who continuously "fawn" over dead ideals & a glorious past where they idolize "heroes" who can do no wrong.  Problem is, it's a skewed version of the past/truth.  And it's an exclusive club where those who don't buy into the circle jerk are simply not welcome.  Bruce Marshall was the best example.  As a bystander he seemed like a pretty intelligent man with solid opinions.  But he was brow beat off the forum for disagreeing. 

You see, in the world of the internet, when you nurture a forum like that, it automatically attracts people who want to destroy it.  That's exactly what Ziggy is about EVEN thought he might not know that's what he IS about.  You create a "gated cyber community" and someone wants to kick down the gate (for the sake of kicking it down).  If it was a major forum, someone would DDoS it, then they'd inject malware into each posters computers, steal their credentials, d0x everyone then post it all on Pastebin. 

Finally, I honestly don't read SOWNY that much but if Ziggy did go "on and on and on for months" about Ted Woloyshn.  Well how is that any different than the same posters who went on and on for years about how CHUM AM should return to playing Oldies?  It's the same premise guys.  And quite frankly both statements are pretty tiring. 

I suspect the reason the moderator does nothing about Ziggy is because the moderator is an outsider.  He realizes Ziggy is a dickhead.  And Ziggy is opinionated.  And he also realizes that Ziggy is entitled to his ugly repetitive opinion because..that's free speech.  Free speech is often treated like capitalism. It's adored by the masses until it shows it's ugly side. 
 

Among  the reasons i left is that the trouble-maker had 3 at least maybe 4 diferent sign-on names.Often he/she would start a thread and argue with him/her self.
You don't have to have a piece of paper hanging on the wall to figure out that this person is craving attention and clearly not getting it by being his/her self so tries to get it by being an %@* hole disturber.

@BeatBox.  I get you don't like his opinions, so put him on block & ignore him.  That feature is available.  You do realize you're on the internet & it's a place about free & open speech, some of it that is offensive, etc.  If you want a "clean" forum, then initiate one in Facebook & go from there. 

It wasn't just Ziggy that went after Bruce Marshall, it was other people too.  I read enough to know that.  As for others not posting, etc, same was said when I posted there 10 years ago.  I was the "fault" the forum was going downhill.  I was at fault even after I stopped going there.  I was at fault for THIS forum going downhill.

Yeah, Ziggy is a dick.  The internet is filled with dickheads.  But SOWNY has been going downhill for 10 years because it's too narrowly focused & only a small number of people post there.  More than Ziggy is at play. 

Did you ever consider some people just left the forum because you can only talk about the same sh8t for so long before you get tired of it?  Maybe it's not Ziggy so much as the content?  Remember, content is king on radio AND on forums.